Also stupid: ignoring calls that you’re too old, dropping out way too late for a primary and handing off to your VP who was not particularly popular last primary.
Continued the initial push of laying her foot into the collective asses of the MAGA collective. That first month or so was great and Dems needed that energy.
Gone against Biden and condemned the situation in Gaza AND remind everyone that Ukraine is still going.
Not listened to the idiot Dem “strategists” who seem so fucking convinced that courting modern Conservatives is a good idea.
Had she done these three things and even the shit communications of the Dems could not have stopped the word of mouth and internet celebrity status she would have had.
That’s the thing: She was doing fine initially. Not even when you measured her up against Biden, just in general. She came out verbally lashing Trump and challenging everything he and his cronies tried to do. She did exactly what I was hoping she’d do and lean on her experience in law and not tried to be charismatic.
What I suspect happened is she was pulled aside and told it wouldn’t work. Chances are she was made to bend and rather than leverage her position she did bend. Or perhaps she was convinced to do so, I don’t know. After Bernie in 2016 I don’t trust the Dems at all when it comes to elections. Not in the sense of corrupt votes or whatever, in that they’d choose a losing candidate or choose to lose over having to admit they need to step aside and let the energy flow.
Biden, a white man, only stepped down because his own numbers showed him losing terribly too. The dems have lost the plot and are not speaking to (both in person and as a platform) their base.
A white man embracing Cuban and Cheney but running as a dem, supporting a genocide, and telling people worried about the economy that they’re doing just fine would have lost too. Unless you’re a racist yourself, dont confuse stupid with racism and sexism.
Maybe? The huge chunk of people who didn’t vote for her were white middle class suburban men. There might have been a simple racial bias to factor in as well.
She lost traction with every single demographic except white college educated. Stop trying to make this solely about individual demographic differences. It clearly wasnt.
Biden did a lot of deeply frustrating and very wrongheaded things, but Garland for AG, imo, cleanly takes the cake. I genuinely cannot think of a more feckless, functionally useless, and societally harmful nomination that he made.
I was vocally against it at the time, but too many dumbasses were way too into “poetic justice” to see how stupid making the compromise candidate your first choose was
When I called out the appointment it was just a Republican in Biden’s cabinet who wouldn’t go after Jan 6 rioters or Trump, I was told I was being a doomer and unrealistic.
You know, almost feels intentional. Would not surprise me, for sure. I can totally imagine that jackass thinking better for him to hand the reigns to Trump than to some dirty socialist like Bernie.
Left wing populists threaten the oligarchs. Right wing populists don’t. It’s really that simple. The Democratic establishment straight up prefers Trump to Bernie.
Trump is an idiot who looks good to run against. When Trump was gaining ground, donations went up. When Roe v. Wade was abolished, donations went up.
Why have a candidate who wants to help people and can defeat Trump when the money keeps pouring in so you can leave the country if he ever gets “too much”.
Almost certainly. The Dems in power aren’t worried about a second Trump administration. If anything, they’re excited for it. What terrifies them is the idea of a third party, progressive candidate getting office.
That’s not the whole story. The concerns about his age were present since before he was elected as president, which is what led him to promise to be a one-term president. His presidency was llagued with stories about his age and appearances that made clear he was no longer fit.
He reneged on his promise and, as the incumbent president, was a shoe-in for the primary, preventing a real primary involving real competition for the candidacy to occur. In June, the calls for him to drop out began coming from the highest levels of media and the party due to the disastrous debate, but Dem voters and the nation in general considered him to be too old years before that.
I’m sorry, but it is stupid to acknowledge that your age is a liability, then after 4 years have passed, refuse to step aside so that your allies are forced to downplay your fitness issues and elect you as forerunner of the party, then to be exposed right next to your opponent on an internationally-watched debate.
No, he can in fact renege on a promise he gave to his aides who revealed it to credible press organizations. You are free to call the NYT and Politico “the web”, but you’re not free to reply to me anymore. Blocked.
He also let everyone believe he was just gonna run for one term. Then, when election season comes around, when asked if he was gonna step aside and that most Americans would like him to not run, his response?
Are you referring to the ridiculous sham they called the 2024 Democratic Primary? Where nobody serious ran against him because the party would black list them?
You’re right, he never said the exact words. But all of America was under the impression he was gonna step back. He never used the direct words to dispell that either. I’m not alone in feeling betrayed by Biden.
Also stupid: ignoring calls that you’re too old, dropping out way too late for a primary and handing off to your VP who was not particularly popular last primary.
She’d had done fine if she did three things:
Continued the initial push of laying her foot into the collective asses of the MAGA collective. That first month or so was great and Dems needed that energy.
Gone against Biden and condemned the situation in Gaza AND remind everyone that Ukraine is still going.
Not listened to the idiot Dem “strategists” who seem so fucking convinced that courting modern Conservatives is a good idea.
Had she done these three things and even the shit communications of the Dems could not have stopped the word of mouth and internet celebrity status she would have had.
Or, she could have courted conservatives by going after the health insurance industry. Democrats are still operating like it’s the 1990s.
She didn’t though. Given the fact she never won a presidential primary it was unsurprising that she ran a poor campaign.
That’s the thing: She was doing fine initially. Not even when you measured her up against Biden, just in general. She came out verbally lashing Trump and challenging everything he and his cronies tried to do. She did exactly what I was hoping she’d do and lean on her experience in law and not tried to be charismatic.
What I suspect happened is she was pulled aside and told it wouldn’t work. Chances are she was made to bend and rather than leverage her position she did bend. Or perhaps she was convinced to do so, I don’t know. After Bernie in 2016 I don’t trust the Dems at all when it comes to elections. Not in the sense of corrupt votes or whatever, in that they’d choose a losing candidate or choose to lose over having to admit they need to step aside and let the energy flow.
What I think you are trying to say is:
I’ve thought about this quote a lot since the election lol. Timeless.
Yeah, pretty much…
Been white
Been a man
Biden, a white man, only stepped down because his own numbers showed him losing terribly too. The dems have lost the plot and are not speaking to (both in person and as a platform) their base.
A white man embracing Cuban and Cheney but running as a dem, supporting a genocide, and telling people worried about the economy that they’re doing just fine would have lost too. Unless you’re a racist yourself, dont confuse stupid with racism and sexism.
Maybe? The huge chunk of people who didn’t vote for her were white middle class suburban men. There might have been a simple racial bias to factor in as well.
She lost traction with every single demographic except white college educated. Stop trying to make this solely about individual demographic differences. It clearly wasnt.
That worked so well for Hillary Clinton. Let’s face it, we are not ready for a women president. We won’t even let them head committees in Congress!
Also putting a heritage foundation sympathizer as your AG.
Not accounting postal board members who would remove the scum that is DeJoy.
Letting Israel genocide Palestine without cutting off the weapon supply. While also dragging us into shit with Iran.
Biden did a lot of deeply frustrating and very wrongheaded things, but Garland for AG, imo, cleanly takes the cake. I genuinely cannot think of a more feckless, functionally useless, and societally harmful nomination that he made.
I was vocally against it at the time, but too many dumbasses were way too into “poetic justice” to see how stupid making the compromise candidate your first choose was
When I called out the appointment it was just a Republican in Biden’s cabinet who wouldn’t go after Jan 6 rioters or Trump, I was told I was being a doomer and unrealistic.
I hate being right about horrid shit.
“Never underestimate Joe Bidens ability to fuck everything up” –Barrack Obama.
You know, almost feels intentional. Would not surprise me, for sure. I can totally imagine that jackass thinking better for him to hand the reigns to Trump than to some dirty socialist like Bernie.
Left wing populists threaten the oligarchs. Right wing populists don’t. It’s really that simple. The Democratic establishment straight up prefers Trump to Bernie.
Trump is an idiot who looks good to run against. When Trump was gaining ground, donations went up. When Roe v. Wade was abolished, donations went up.
Why have a candidate who wants to help people and can defeat Trump when the money keeps pouring in so you can leave the country if he ever gets “too much”.
Almost certainly. The Dems in power aren’t worried about a second Trump administration. If anything, they’re excited for it. What terrifies them is the idea of a third party, progressive candidate getting office.
If Trump just wants to hurt more people that the Dems are, they would stay in office with security or leave the country.
Trump’s victims of the lower class aren’t able to have such luxury. No one cares but the victims.
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The Democratic primaries and caucus finished in May.
Calls for Biden to step out down started in June.
That’s not the whole story. The concerns about his age were present since before he was elected as president, which is what led him to promise to be a one-term president. His presidency was llagued with stories about his age and appearances that made clear he was no longer fit.
He reneged on his promise and, as the incumbent president, was a shoe-in for the primary, preventing a real primary involving real competition for the candidacy to occur. In June, the calls for him to drop out began coming from the highest levels of media and the party due to the disastrous debate, but Dem voters and the nation in general considered him to be too old years before that.
I’m sorry, but it is stupid to acknowledge that your age is a liability, then after 4 years have passed, refuse to step aside so that your allies are forced to downplay your fitness issues and elect you as forerunner of the party, then to be exposed right next to your opponent on an internationally-watched debate.
That’s the story as it pertains to your original statement.
I don’t remember him promising to be a one term President, so would like a source for that.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129
As it says, no public pledge. A story on a web page is not a pledge.
I never said “public pledge.” You can stop being disingenuous or stop replying to me.
Look who’s being disingenuous
He can’t reneg, as you said, on something you read on the web.
No, he can in fact renege on a promise he gave to his aides who revealed it to credible press organizations. You are free to call the NYT and Politico “the web”, but you’re not free to reply to me anymore. Blocked.
He also let everyone believe he was just gonna run for one term. Then, when election season comes around, when asked if he was gonna step aside and that most Americans would like him to not run, his response?
“Watch me.”
Fuck you, Jack. FUCK. YOU.
He made no announcement that he wouldn’t serve a second term.
He recieved 14 million votes in primary, and you want him to step down due to a poll?
Are you referring to the ridiculous sham they called the 2024 Democratic Primary? Where nobody serious ran against him because the party would black list them?
You’re right, he never said the exact words. But all of America was under the impression he was gonna step back. He never used the direct words to dispell that either. I’m not alone in feeling betrayed by Biden.
All of America minus 14 million.
14 million is 4% of 345 million (~American population.) Yes, 96% of America thought he wasn’t gonna run again.
The whole population is not the voting population